Why Do Wannbe's Think Lee Created Mixed Martial Arts When It Has Been Around Far Longer Then Him?
styles have been being mixed for hundreds of years, yet all i here are fan boys claiming bruce lee invented it when he didnt way is this so?
can they not read is it too complex for them too look at history?
Some people do not really ever THINK much. They choose to blindly believe absurd hoaxes. When Bruce Lee died young and in controversial circumstances, the hoaxers saw a green light to do their deceitful thing and began inventing many absurd lies about him, including this one. Some people find reality much too dull and lacking in sensationalism and melodrama, so they prefer to believe absurd lies. Bruce Lee did not impress most Chinese producers of martial arts movies, but he had been acting since he was six years old and thus had connections in the industry, so he was given some roles. About two years after his death, the hoaxes had become so popular that some Chinese movies were made supposedly about him. In the 1982 film "The Image of Bruce Lee", Ho Chung-Tao is told by sexy Lei Dan-Na (born Hsum Hsak-Yi) that he is, "the very image of Bruce Lee". Poor girl needed eyeglasses. Mr. Ho was called "Bruce Li" in a series of Chinese films made 1975 to 1983, e.g. "The Image Of Bruce Lee", "Bruce Li In New Guinea", "Edge OF Fury", "Exit The Dragon, Enter The Tiger", "The Blind Fist Of Bruce Li", "Bruce Li The Invincible", etc. Believers in the Bruce Lee virtual religion only want to read sensationalistic hoaxes, so they ignore history that lacks the sensationalism and melodrama they desire. They are similar to religious fundamentalists in seeing only what they want to see that seems to support their premature and groundless beliefs, however feebly and even absurdly it does it, while totally ignoring strong evidence against their favorite hoaxes. Some Americans got into the act. An older American man I know said he had a silly movie about Bruce Lee that said he won the world championship of martial arts many times. What an audacious lie! He never even competed but made feeble excuses for not doing it. The believers gladly accept the most feeble excuses on this subject.
probably because it was popularised in the west through him.
Ignorance, they simply don’t know.
Because fanboys are just lay people…common folk with little to no background or sense of history.
Hence they tend to go with the simplest of all explanations. The notion of Lee creating MMA is simply erroneous to begin with. He proposed the idea of a versatile, formless fighter that is able to seamlessly flow and adapt. MMA is just a format that one can participate in to build on some of these attributes. However the concepts, applications and philosophy of JKD stretches out much much further than brawling in a cage.
mixed MA was around before Bruce Lee ever hit the scene
Kajukenbo USA’s first MMA was created in the 1947-50 era
Pancration was around for possibly even a longer time
Lee was the icon. He popularized the arts through the movies. Before Lee, martial arts were considered mysterious disciplines pursued by a small subculture of devotees.
Martial arts went mainstream through Lee. So I think the natural tendency is for some folks to confuse the real man Lee with the movie persona who could beat 200 men at once.
I think anyone who as really fought even one man in a real street fight knows better.
However, in my view, Lee actually did start MMA, atmleast in a way.. Lines of linegae go back through to him.
Examples- grappling great Erik Paulson was originally a student of Inosanto, as was Burt Richardson who worked with Chris Leben. Mike Tyson and Sugar Ray Leonard studied Lee’s movements. IS there any MMA guy who has not been influenced by either or both of those guys, as far as the hands are concerned? I don’t know if Lee was the grandfather of mma, but he was at least the godfather.
Kajukenbo was a mixed martial art that started in Hawaii in the 1940s, and the original KJKB guys did fight all-out with no equipment in training, as did the original krav maga guys who were under Imi Lichtenfeld in Israel. Full contact is nothing new, but credit Lee and Inosanto for telling all martial artists- you need to do muay thai and American boxing.
Because people believe whatever they see in movies, read in magazines and hear in rumours. People actually think Bruce Lee was one of the best martial artists ever….. He was actually pretty much mediocre. They think Bodhidharma taught the shaolin monks martial arts…… he actually never even visited them, they hired soldiers as a militia which brought martial arts slowly to the temple. People think tai chi chuan is a taoist martial art……. the taoist connection is actually an extremely late development. People think that martial monks and mountain dwelling immortals invented martial arts by watching animals and meditating….. every single martial art ever comes from the battlefield.
Martial arts mythology has always been big, but the mass popularisation of the 20th century has caused it to balloon. It makes me chuckle what some people still believe.
Cross training in more than one martial art has been around as along as martial arts have been around. Hell, even ancient Pankration incorporated numerous fighting styles into competition.
Yes there were mixed styles before Bruce Lee. But MMA wouldnt be what it is today without Lee. Thats why he needs to be mentioned. His JKD is not too far away from MMA. And it made him the most revolutionary martial artist ever. He was the first real international superstar. He was the first FAMOUS and highly respected martial artist who mixed styles. He took boxing, muay thai, wrestling, jiu jitsu and some others to create JKD. Now you see the relationship?? Thats why Dana White called him "the godfather of MMA". people forget Lee made martial arts as famous as they are today. We have to thank and respect him a lot.
I think the first real mixed martial artist (who mixed styles) was Matsumura Sokon – he was a karate and kung fu fighter of the 18 th century and survived many life or death battles.
excs my english, im german
Kajukenbo the Hawaii street fighting art was created in 1947. It was a combination of the martial arts that were available in Hawaii at that time, Judo, Danzan Ryu Jujitsu, Kenpo Karate, Escrima, Gung-fu and Western Boxing. Kajukenbo schools never tried to be commercial to the general public. The first requirement of a new student is the he/she have a very high level of pain tolerance and his/her body is able to withstand physical punishment. The brutal, violent and dangerous training methods lead to constant injuries, so only the most dedicated students continue to train in it. With its high dropout rate, Kajukenbo never became popular. So very few people heard of it.
Although ancient Greek Pankration contained a blend of striking, trapping, throwing, and grappling, those fights were often to the death, and many times they involved the use of weapons. What Bruce Lee did was combine modern martial arts like wing chun, fencing, kali, boxing, and savate, and blend them into a comprehensive fighting system, Jun Fan Gung-Fu (Nucleus JKD). The ancient Greeks did not study various fighting styles and synthesize them, getting rid of what did not work, while keeping the rest, like Bruce Lee did with his Jun Fan Gung-Fu.